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I'm not sure about the AI cracking tactics or whatever, but I have seen the AI change their own tactics in order to cope with yours. As has been mentioned, they usually adpot more defensive approaches and make it more difficult for you to score.In the event of this, all you really need to do is tweak your tactic accordingly in order to answer the new questions being asked by the opposition. Tactics in game have developed beyond the point of just pluging in and playing. There is now a bigger demmand to 'prepare' for matches.
I'm not sure about the AI cracking tactics or whatever, but I have seen the AI change their own tactics in order to cope with yours. As has been mentioned, they usually adpot more defensive approaches and make it more difficult for you to score.In the event of this, all you really need to do is tweak your tactic accordingly in order to answer the new questions being asked by the opposition. Tactics in game have developed beyond the point of just pluging in and playing. There is now a bigger demmand to 'prepare' for matches.Pretty much this. When you start to gain a reputation teams are more likely play more cautious and counterattacking because they want to get a result against you. They may not necessarily park the bus but it will feel like it.Real life example: stoke city and chelsea. Barring chelsea's 7-0 destruction of stoke, their previous 2 matches ended in last minute winners.
This is due to the fact that stoke play very defensively in order to frustrate chelsea and make themselves much harder to break down.In FM, I have even seen teams use more defensive formations against me that they would usually use when my team is on a hot streak. I'm not sure about the AI cracking tactics or whatever, but I have seen the AI change their own tactics in order to cope with yours. As has been mentioned, they usually adpot more defensive approaches and make it more difficult for you to score.That is totally different thing. When you have better team (more reputation), opponents tend to use very defensive tactics.But when tactic is cracked, opponents seem to have about '2 seconds advantage'. So like when attacking, opponents see to know where your player passes the ball before he even passes. Very easy to but out that pass.
And same on defending, opponents can take superb positions even their positioning seems stupid. But after couple of seconds ball is right there. So opponents can be impossibly effective when having good position because they seem to know where ball will be in couple of seconds.Of course, sometimes these are just good luck, but about 100 times on single match, that is cracked tactics. That is totally different thing. When you have better team (more reputation), opponents tend to use very defensive tactics.But when tactic is cracked, opponents seem to have about '2 seconds advantage'. So like when attacking, opponents see to know where your player passes the ball before he even passes. Very easy to but out that pass.
And same on defending, opponents can take superb positions even their positioning seems stupid. But after couple of seconds ball is right there. So opponents can be impossibly effective when having good position because they seem to know where ball will be in couple of seconds.Of course, sometimes these are just good luck, but about 100 times on single match, that is cracked tactics.I have not played the game long enough to actually experience these so called 'cracked tactics'. But it seems the vast majority of people seem to agree that it does not exist. I reiteratre: I have not experienced this. I'm very curious now.
Lots of discussion, must have missed the proof.You know, this forum have so many posts that it is understandably very hard to find anything old stuff.However, not so many years ago it was a classic that 'I suddenly begin to lose matches like 0-5', answer 'tactics cracked, change tactics'. These posts are like gonner.Another problem is that while I may find many IRC discussions about this issue (there were many), old links to this forun do not work so no help from there either.In the meantime, you may gladly explain following:Some people said that tactics crack is like 'going defensive so you have harder to score'. So how do you really explain that 'going defensive' team scores 10 goals against this kind on defensive line with very effective proven tactics?GK CA:195DL CA: 180DC CA: 190DC CA: 188DR CA: 160DM CA: 185Just forget bad luck, vbad tactics, bad players. Figure out something else. You do not have anything else than.Yeah, watched entire match. Those Liverpoolians just knew where I was passing before I even passed. Exactly what tactic crack 'should do'.I have no need to prove anything.
But of course, if we get somebody from SIGames here, that is OK. The AI will use exactly same tactic they used in previous match you lost (if you save before the match, lose, reload the game).You may beat them or draw this time round. Using exactly same tactic and same team and team talks. Who said it exists? Just like in Championship Manager series.
It's fantastic how many people believe in it. I haven't encountered any of this.However, on my study of CM0102 I found that if your team is overachieving (for example winning almost all the time) they will throw 'cheat' at you. Not cracking by any means. The AI will cheat. It's made to do so, so it stands a chance with human brain.The cheat may be 'only-one-chance-to-score', 'fluke goal from cross', 'superkeeper syndrome on 16 yo old GK.' Then you'll tell yourself tactic got cracked or something. Looking at stats you'll see total dominance of your team (20+ shots on target) vs 1 on target and lose.This is not realistic, but it keeps the game alive more.
Just forget bad luck, vbad tactics, bad players. Figure out something else. You do not have anything else than.'
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Forget' some very, very feasible reasons, don't mention other significant impacts, like motivation, offer little in the way of tactical analysis, and it is clearly a hidden programming trick. Remember that one game that I played, the one you didn't see or have any information on, you'll just have to take my word for it.
I'm right.I think in a game of many, many, many complex variables, finding voodoo reasons for variation in final results just doesn't stack up. You may beat them or draw this time round. Using exactly same tactic and same team and team talks. Who said it exists? Just like in Championship Manager series. It's fantastic how many people believe in it. I haven't encountered any of this.It is fantastic that it is really hard to get rating 2 on even totally amateur defenders with world class players.
Now world class defenders pick that rating. Strange this kind of things happens only when my tactic is cracked.Hopefully I have that match saved somewhere. However, on my study of CM0102 I found that if your team is overachieving (for example winning almost all the time) they will throw 'cheat' at you. Not cracking by any means. The AI will cheat. It's made to do so, so it stands a chance with human brain.On CM01/02 it was totally common that you shoot 30/20 with 0 goals, then your GK gets red card and opponents score penalty. Of course, without match view it is impossible to tell what exatly happens on field, but this kind of games are very rare on FM-series.In fact, on FM series GK's take rarely red cards, CM 01/02 it was totally common.
You know, this forum have so many posts that it is understandably very hard to find anything old stuff.However, not so many years ago it was a classic that 'I suddenly begin to lose matches like 0-5', answer 'tactics cracked, change tactics'. These posts are like gonner.I think you're getting confused between popular belief and fact. A lot of players did think that the game cracked your tactics, hence the posts like that, when in fact it was more a symptom of the other teams reacting to your reputation and performances as has been described in this thread. It wasn't until at least '09 till most people really began to realise the truth.Just as a aside, if SI had really designed an AI that could analyse you tactics and come up with a suitable counter (in the way that a real manager would.), do you really think they would take it out? I think you're getting confused between popular belief and fact. A lot of players did think that the game cracked your tactics, hence the posts like that, when in fact it was more a symptom of the other teams reacting to your reputation and performances as has been described in this thread.
It wasn't until at least '09 till most people really began to realise the truth.Yeah, I know this kind of 'I lost a crucial match', 'my superGK played badly', 'my players were poor' - AI cheats posts.However, you can really see when your tactics is cracked when watching the match. It is not just 'your players have bad game' it is much more.And also, one of known facts was that 'when you change tactics, cracking starts all over'.It took me a while to create solution for this one. I played almost every game with same formation. And my tactics got cracked too many times, then I just changed tactics. But after I managed to find out solution using this 'fact' without sacrificing my team's performance. After that I have played over 30 seasons with that same formation without ever cracked tactics.
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Uses one of the known 'fact' of this tactics crackSolution that works and obeys 'theory', that is kind of a proof. Quite good one.
I can't believe the myth of cracked tactics is still taken seriously by some people.Of course the game doesn't 'crack' your tactics. Absolute rubbish.I think the biggest reason the theory is still around is because when watching the 3D, its sometimes supports the theory, especially if one is actively looking for 'proof'.The scenarios I am referring to is when AI players takes weird runs when NOT in possession only for the ball to bounce of one of our defenders onto the feet of the odd behaving player that has decided to stand 10 yards behind the d-line.
Scenarios when 5 different players in a row are making really, really poor decisions leading up to the AI winger scoring a fluke goal.Of course, this is just the 3D sometimes making a poor representation of the calculated events, that are to result in a certain result in a match and/or some AI goals scored against us being heavily overrepresented due to the ME not being to handle weird tactic that should be punished for its poor defensive setup but perhaps not in the specific way its shown in the 3D. I can't believe the myth of cracked tactics is still taken seriously by some people.Of course the game doesn't 'crack' your tactics. Absolute rubbish.If you have seen cracked tactics, you wouldn't disagree. So it seems you have not.If about 5 years ago you said there are no tactic crack, nobody took you seriously. Your team plays well, suddenly starts to lose by 5 to 8 goals match after match, changing formation helps immediately. Common question. Strange kind of a myth that seem to exist.You can begin by explaining that match example I provided.
Just bad luck, yeah. After that I have played about 30 seasons and have never experienced game like that (because I now use fix for that crack thing) even with much poorer players.
The scenarios I am referring to is when AI players takes weird runs when NOT in possession only for the ball to bounce of one of our defenders onto the feet of the odd behaving player that has decided to stand 10 yards behind the d-line. Scenarios when 5 different players in a row are making really, really poor decisions leading up to the AI winger scoring a fluke goal.Of course, this is just the 3D sometimes making a poor representation of the calculated events, that are to result in a certain result in a match and/or some AI goals scored against us being heavily overrepresented due to the ME not being to handle weird tactic that should be punished for its poor defensive setup but perhaps not in the specific way its shown in the 3DYes, especially offsides are really impossible to judge from 2D view. Luckily, commentator is allways right.As for this kind of flukes, it is normal they come some times. However, it is not normal they keep coming ten times over normal, match after match. And suddenly stop coming immediately after changing formation. If AI cracked your tactic you would lose every game till the end of the season isn't that true? That's of course not the case.
I believe most of the time team hits low form especially near December there will be slump of form visible.I'll check this one, my current career (currently year 2018) games in november and december:2014: 12 matches, 10 won, 1 draw, 1 lost2015: 16 matches, 13 won, 1 draw, 2 lost2016: 16 matches, 12 won, 2 draw, 2 lost2017: 14 matches, 9 won, 4 draw, 1 lost2018: 15 matches, 13 won, 1 draw, 1 lostMy team gets actually gets 'boost' near december rather than a slump. Form is excellent on november and december. I believe that is because I have huge amount of capable players where as other teams usually not. On december, there may well be injury and suspension problems due to yellow cards. Hardest month seems to be february or march.
Combination of possible UCL playoff and FA Cup matches is understandably hard. One of your posts a while ago, could you not reproduce what you've seen many times?Why would I want to get my tactics cracked when finally figured out how to avoid it? And as said, using that fix, I haven't experieced it on about 30 seasons.I try to win matches, not lose them.It is not that hard to reproduce, however somewhat time consuming, because those matches should be played, not 'go on holiday'.
And my current save takes over gigabyte, so no wonder I do not have old saves left.Using mouse script, it may be possible to put machine play automatically games, but not that easy. Post up your tactic so we can have a look at it?I noticed there are about 150 'archived tactics'. Steel pulse true democracy rarity. Some of them actually are from that career.Base formation:On base formation, DM DArrow can be removed of put to Farrow. Easiest way to get more power to midfield.There seemed to be tons of tactics to different conditions.
Of course, individual instructions vary.Waterball tactics home:Idea is to get with ball to byline and cross to my headbangers head (like 187 cm, Jumping 20, Strength 20, Heading 20, Finishing 20, Anticipation 17, Off the ball 19 and so on.). My home pitch is maximum side. Because of bad conditions, I try to tire opponents. Defensive line deep because there are usually not so much risk about Long shots when playing with regens, more about rebounds.Dry tactics home:Same idea but now with shorter passing, not so deep defensive line and more CF. Try to play with short passes on wings, get to byline and after that cross to targetman. JAT - both tactics look potentially flawed. The formation uses a lot of long arrows, basically making it an exploit tactic.
You are using an attacking mentality with a deep defensive line giving no compactness to the team. There is no balance to the tactic at all either.
This tactic wasn't cracked, it was just very poor.Point one: At that time, I play with full regens only (computer created all players). Before that, I played with half regens (no real players and randomized attributes). That is very different compared to game when there are real players like Lampard and so on.Point two: Deep defensive line keeps very hard to get one on ones against my keeper.
And then what should opponent do? High Cross ball? My centre backs are glad to head those away. Low cross ball? My keeper has excellent Rushing out and that usually does not work. Long shots on wet surface?
That is most like to work, but as I said, I play with full regens who usually do not have great Long shots attribute. If they have, I make some adjustments.
Short passing? About only option but on wet surface it is very hard.Point three: My team is excellent on air and that is why I try to keep ball on air as much as possible. That tactics was designed for MY team, it does not need to work with any other team. And yes, I had very similar players on each position.Point four: With 'poor tactics' (I admit my training schedules sucked on that career, that is what I improved later), you just cannot win 49 trophies in 7 seasons. In fact with poor tactics, my team loses against amateur teams in friendly matches (that is the way to clear tactics crack).I do not think you have proper knowledge on FM 2008 or at least with when playing only regens. I'm sorry but you are really going to have to come up with some proper evidence. As far as I am concerned, it's a load of rubbish.Yeah, not proof of any kind, but with same base formation on my current career, most goals conceded ever on my team is 6.
And my team is not yet even near as good as that squad. It simply does not make sense that world class defensive line concedes 10 goals and world class centre back gets 2 rating, something you have hard to get with world class strikers against amateur defenders. And as said, AFTER finding out how to break tactics crack, thousands of matches without anything like that. And that was not only time on that career when something like that happened.I try to get that evidence, but it is not that easy. I deliver it if I can get it easilly, if I cannot, it does not matter me much.
If somebody with much less experience does not believe me, that is not a problem. After all, this is just a game. Defensive LineRelation to Mentality SystemThe most important setting for the defensive line relates to the mentality system.The back line must be in contact with its midfield at all times. If it isn’t,opposition forwards will constantly exploit the gap between the deepestmidfielder and the central defenders. This will lead to the team being vulnerableto long shots (as the forwards have plenty of time and space to set themselves)plus a series of desperate last‐ditch tackles resulting in bookings and dangerousfree kicks.To ensure the above doesn’t happen, the defensive line must be linked to thementality structure.Linking the defensive line to the mentality system ensures the back fourremains in contact with the midfield and the team plays as a unit rather thanseparate attacking and defensive forces.This advice may help you in building tactics for the future. I try to get that evidence, but it is not that easy.
I deliver it if I can get it easilly, if I cannot, it does not matter me much. If somebody with much less experience does not believe me, that is not a problem. After all, this is just a game.Someone with much less experience! You are a funny man!I'll explain to you why this happens with all of my experience.You have a very flawed tactic which works to exploit the match engine with long arrows. It overloads the FM08 match engine. Because of this, and your high CA players, most of the time you are able to paper over the cracks of your poor tactic. However, when you come up against others factors (e.g.
A big club, good players, a highly motivated team, your team not being motivatedl, weather conditions not suiting your play, events of the game having an impact on morale and so on and so forth) you lose. You take this to be a 'tactics cracking' but at the end of the day, if you were playing with a well designed, realistic tactic, you would not be having this problem.It's your way of playing the game that is flawed.
And this is why it doesn't happen to other people. You have a very flawed tactic which works to exploit the match engine with long arrows.
It overloads the FM08 match engine. Because of this, and your high CA players, most of the time you are able to paper over the cracks of your poor tactic. However, when you come up against others factors (e.g. A big club, good players, a highly motivated team, your team not being motivatedl, weather conditions not suiting your play, events of the game having an impact on morale and so on and so forth) you lose. You take this to be a 'tactics cracking' but at the end of the day, if you were playing with a well designed, realistic tactic, you would not be having this problem.As I said, 49 trophies in 7 seasons just do not support that opinion.
Of cource, on Champions League final there is amateur teams who cannot outplay my tactic? FA Cup final? All the way Champions league Playoffs and FA Cup? Sounds very good yes. The hilarious thing is that you believe that changing formation will stop this magic 'cracking' from happening.I've been playing the same formation on my current FM10 save for about 6 or 7 seasons.
No problem.On my FM08 save, I played the same formation (4-4-1-1) for my entire career and never had my tactics cracked.So it's clearly just rubbish.The AI uses the same game mechanics as us and tactics cracking doesn't happen. As Rafa Benitez might well say, 'it's a fact'.Finally. So you never got your tactics cracked - tactics cannot get cracked and all that is rubbish. What a proof. How is that better than mine? I have at least some kind on proof, you have just 'I never got it cracked' - rubbish.I have about 60 seasons experience on FM 2008. After finding out way to break that crack (my way obeys theory behind it), I have had no problems, before I have constant.
Quite strange, yes.Also about 'myth'. Somebody discovers a myth that actually works how it should work? And it can be countered theoretically in one way and that actually works? Pretty good 'inspiration' from someone I have to say, if that is just a myth. Also, please consider for a minute that you have a huge advantage over the AI. For example:1) The AI uses simple settings (in FM08, it uses global settings) which are far from optimal and a human manager can easily perform much better tactically because they have the benefit of changing tactics depending upon player qualities and so on and so forth.2) The AI manager is predictable and will make very similar choices all of the time.
That's why the game is reasonably easy to master tactically once you recognise typical AI choices. This was even more true of FM08 which I found to be probably the easiest of the FM series.
On FM08, I felt that the AI made very obvious choices and I was easily able to beat it and overachieve every time.3) With the AI, there is little in terms of an element of surprise. When you are a big club, the AI will often just park the bus even when losing by just a single goal, inviting you to go all out attack and easily win the game! This was especially true of FM08.4) It has been proved, on these forums, that the AI managers make different decisions based on their attributes. Jose Mourinho will perform differently to a non-League manager like Steve Castle. Different frequency of tactical changes, more or less creative freedom or free roles, and so on and so forth. However, as it stands currently, both Jose Mourinho and Steve Castle are both still pretty easy to read and predict in the game in terms of their tactics and decisions. If they have these individual methods, how can they go about 'cracking' a tactic?5) The match engine has been used in FML since the FM08 ME.
Surely if the match engine allowed such tactics 'cracking', then FML would be ultimately flawed with human users able to 'crack' other people's tactics? Or would you argue that only the AI can 'crack' tactics, in which case how is this possible seeing as the AI uses the same mechanism to build its tactics?I could go on and on. The fact remains that you have a huge advantage over the AI as the human player and that the AI has no way of 'cracking' your tactics as it plays the game in the same way as the human. It's a myth, confirmed by SI, and confirmed by much research undertaken by the FM community. Just to back all this up. As some of you know, I am pretty involved in the tactical side of FM at a conceptual level and have been involved in the thought processes behind a lot of the tactical coding over the last 2-3 years.
The AI does not and can not crack tactics. It has never cracked tactics. It has never been able to crack tactics.What has happened in this instance is that the user has built up a world class squad and designed a tactical system that exploited a lot of the old defensive frailties in the AI, through the use of arrows that undo AI defensive positioning. If that is combined with any form of excessively powerful set piece routine, of which FM08 had a few, the user will dominate. However, as crouchaldinho pointed out, the base structure of the tactic is horribly flawed. If the players have a bad start to a game, losing focus and motivation, the advantages the exploits give will be outweighed by the structural holes and the AI will rip through it.That a user can be positive that the AI is cheating is a pretty good illustration of why it was so important to remove the arrows.
They give the impression of one thing, when in fact something else altogether is going on. Well, myself, is on a fence about this.On a huge run with Portsmouth in the EPL, 26 odd games unbeated. Just played tottenham, got smacked 6-0, never took a shot.How can a team, on top of the EPL, get belted 6-0 and never take a shot?
Would you see that happening to Chelsea against Portsmouth in the season just gone?Regardless of what people think, the game generated that loss on purpose, I reloaded the game 5-6 times, could not win it, it was like I was meant to lose. Sure I will lose sometime, but how ever the game does it, it is a bit to obvious! 7th reload of game I won 2-1 btw.
Well, myself, is on a fence about this.On a huge run with Portsmouth in the EPL, 26 odd games unbeated. Just played tottenham, got smacked 6-0, never took a shot.How can a team, on top of the EPL, get belted 6-0 and never take a shot?
Would you see that happening to Chelsea against Portsmouth in the season just gone?Regardless of what people think, the game generated that loss on purpose, I reloaded the game 5-6 times, could not win it, it was like I was meant to lose. Sure I will lose sometime, but how ever the game does it, it is a bit to obvious! 7th reload of game I won 2-1 btw.It's called 'your team had a horrid day' that's all.
There's no conspiracy or anything against your team. Your players simply flat out sucked in that match. It happens to the best teams in the world.I beat Man Utd 5-1 in Europa League final with Hearts. Man Utd were on top of EPL at the time and on a 10 match winning streak. Their team was also definitely better than mine, but there's the result. My guess is that Man Utd's players were overconfident and complacent.
Even the mighty Rooney got a 5.7 in that match.As wwfan and many others on this thread have already said, the AI does not crack your tactics. It's called 'your team had a horrid day' that's all.
There's no conspiracy or anything against your team. Your players simply flat out sucked in that match. It happens to the best teams in the world.I beat Man Utd 5-1 in Europa League final with Hearts.
Man Utd were on top of EPL at the time and on a 10 match winning streak. Their team was also definitely better than mine, but there's the result. My guess is that Man Utd's players were overconfident and complacent. Even the mighty Rooney got a 5.7 in that match.As wwfan and many others on this thread have already said, the AI does not crack your tactics.No doubt every team has a bad day.But in real life, a Very Bad day does not mean Portsmouth beat Chelsea 6-0, does it? Bad day might mean 1-0 win to Portsmouth, or 2-1 etc. What ever the result.No way, does a bad day mean 6-0 defeat to Chelsea by lower league team, with Chelsea not getting a shot in, that will never happen, not on Chelsea's worst day ever.
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